View Full Version : Duron beating a p4 1.6ghz in synthetic test?
Ok, I downloaded Sisoft sandra after formatting, and I have been pushing my duron pretty far lately... Its a Duron 850mhz, but when I did this benchmark it was clocked @ 1090mhz, right now its at 1050mhz.
Check this..
http://hu.apokalyptik.com/CD365/cpu.jpg
hmm
ArchAngelCD
03-23-02, 08:10 PM
Stop it.
Dolemite
03-23-02, 08:11 PM
Haha that's funny.
The original P4 got it's ass handed to it by just about anything. Hell, my P3 933 could almost beat it.
ArchAngelCD
03-23-02, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by CoolDude365
No.
:P :P :P
Quackass
03-23-02, 08:56 PM
i'm going to get flamed for this, but the P4 is a poor performer.
a 1ghz P3 with SDRAM beats a P4 1.3ghz with RDRAM
and a duron performs similar or a little less than a P3 I beleive.
Priceless_Dabson!~
03-23-02, 09:52 PM
Are you drunk!! A P4 beats a PIII easily!! But The AMD Durons
are very strong ......
opus512
03-23-02, 10:41 PM
Run the memory test on it and see what a P4 with RDRAM does to your Duron :D
The P4 really depends on what test your running. Also, I have gotten some very strange results from SiSoft Sandra, I can't say I would put too much stock into their compareable results.
The Duron is a very decent performer, though.
Whats the point of having so much bandwith without the CPU processes behind it in the first place?
Originally posted by opus512
Run the memory test on it and see what a P4 with RDRAM does to your Duron :D
The P4 really depends on what test your running. Also, I have gotten some very strange results from SiSoft Sandra, I can't say I would put too much stock into their compareable results.
The Duron is a very decent performer, though.
The problem with the P4 is that it is only doing 75% of the work that an Athlon is doing in a cycle.... as Cooldude alluded to.
opus512
03-24-02, 01:16 AM
I agree that the P4 has it's limitations, but if run a program on it that was written with the P4 and RDRAM and SSE2 in mind, it'll stomp on the Athlon.
Keeping that in mind, I have still yet to sell even one Intel based system in two years, so I am firmly in the AMD camp. But the P4 is far from the POS that a lot of people think it is, just different means to the same end.
agree that the P4 has it's limitations, but if run a program on it that was written with the P4 and RDRAM and SSE2 in mind, it'll stomp on the Athlon
Why should someone write any program with RDRAM and SSE2 in mind? When the Athlon/Duron processors perform well in almost any situation...I Dont think Intel should depend too much upon programmers to put in too many extra lines of SSE2 enhancements just for the p4's poor architecture to perform well ;)
Originally posted by CoolDude365
Why should someone write any program with RDRAM and SSE2 in mind? When the Athlon/Duron processors perform well in almost any situation...I Dont think Intel should depend too much upon programmers to put in too many extra lines of SSE2 enhancements just for the p4's poor architecture to perform well ;)
Ahem: http://www.aceshardware.com/Spades/read.php?article_id=40000193
And I even think AMD is agreeing that SSE2 is worth implementing in their future CPU's, which probably is why they licensed the Extension from Intel.
Evil-Elmo
03-24-02, 10:18 AM
P4 = K6-2
The two have more in common then you think :P
I knew someone would say that Hip.. but the point was... Athlon/Duron chips have always performed well in almost any situation..
Originally posted by Evil-Elmo
P4 = K6-2
The two have more in common then you think :P
like what?
scottg26
03-24-02, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Evil-Elmo
P4 = K6-2
The two have more in common then you think :P
LOL :D
I remeber the Celeron vs K6-2 wars..........
Originally posted by opus512
I agree that the P4 has it's limitations, but if run a program on it that was written with the P4 and RDRAM and SSE2 in mind, it'll stomp on the Athlon.
Keeping that in mind, I have still yet to sell even one Intel based system in two years, so I am firmly in the AMD camp. But the P4 is far from the POS that a lot of people think it is, just different means to the same end.
The troublw is tho that AMD has the rights to use SSE2 also.......
Sharkfood
03-24-02, 06:42 PM
There are a couple incorrect assumptions being made by the comparison:
1) Use the drop downs to select a Duron of similar configuration and you'll notice the configuration database profiles are far from "in the field" results, being largely conservative.
2) Your oc'd 1ghz Duron is within a small percentage of an Athlon 1.2ghz by the profile system. So, does this mean the Duron is a better CPU than the true 133fsb Athlon as well?
3) The P4 has two modes of operation for INT and FPU performance. This specifically has effects on Drystones and Whetstone benchmarks, which use plain register math versus CPU ops for the same. Using a DOS based Drystone benchmark, for example, a P4-2.0ghz is roughly 33% slower than a P3-1ghz in Drystones. This is due to the CPU being in "P4" mode versus fallback FPU/ALU mode. Most P4 BIOS's allow switching of the CPU mode, at which point the new FPU/ALU (which is used by software and Windows, but not Drystone/Whetstone) will be disabled. The CPU mode switch in the BIOS is provided for users wishing to use older, pre-1990 OS's like SCO Unix or other 486 written OS's that do not use CPU opcodes for FPU/ALU operations (like Dry/Whetstone).
Cheers,
-Shark
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