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06-26-02, 12:15 PM
I didn't want to place them on the frontpage, those interested can pick and choose the source to have a look at them:
06-26-02, 08:43 PM
It's early but so far it doesn't seem to be worth it. Have you had any experience with matrox though? How are their drivers? opengl and directx?
06-26-02, 09:04 PM
No I never had an experience with a Matrox card (as in owning one), because theyīve always been far too expensive around here against the competition.
As for itīs price I agree.
I rather posted those links here to be able to access them quickly to read those I havenīt read yet hehehehe ;)
I sort of once had a little experience with Matrox cards.. I say sort of because it was about 3-4 years ago :) I had that Matrox Mystique 2mb card on my mo.bo and it could not even play Turoc2 or Quake smoothly! As for drivers.. well at that time i did not know anything about what a driver is (other than the person that drives a vehicle :D)
That aside, Matrox cards have always been quite expensive and mostly for comercial or professional use, rather than gaming.
I had a matrox mystique, a matrox millennium g200 and a millennium g400max.
overall, i must say me experience has been rather positive, image quality was great and drivers was pretty good too, with the possible exception of the opengl icd for the g200.
they have THE BEST direct3d driver, i have EVER seen for any graphic card, extremely stable and very fast(compared to what the hardware is capable of, of course), in the two years i used the g400max, i havenīt seen a single bug in their direct3d.
their opengl icd is almost as good(but not perfect), it stil has some few bugs(it canīt run glquake without bugs, for example).
I plan to buy a parhelia, and drivers is not one of my worries.
my experience is that they focus a lot more on stabillity and bugfixes than speed, when it comes to drivers though.
They tend to support their cards for a long time too, you can for example get winxp-drivers for their original millennium.
when it comes to matrox you usually get what you pay for.
stay away from their marvel series though, they dropped support for those, which means you will have trouble getting new driver for them.
06-28-02, 05:48 PM
when it comes to matrox you usually get what you pay for
Albeit I preserve them still some headroom for improvements, because multitexturing fillrate numbers and several other aspects still donīt match the cards theoretical abilities, Iīm hardpressed to see in Parheliaīs case the 399$ value for the average gamer.
To me performance is not the be all end all, but I would expect at least to see a significant difference across the board since I came from a K2:
A glimpse into the immediate future:
Whereīs the value when a Ti4200 or Radeon8500 are rating under 180$ US each and that even from quality vendors.
Granted Parhelia has quite a few significant features/innovations and the only playable 16x sample antialiasing algorithm on the market, but for the average user -apart from the true Matrox enthusiast - thereīs not much to sway him over.
Quality could be mentioned here, but the competition has gone that far these days that the average user hardly will notice a difference these days.
well, you are right, that if your primary interrest is games, then there are better price/perfomance offerings out there.
however i think this is a very good all-around card, it is supposed to have the best dvd and tv-out, it is THE cheapest 3d pro workstation card, and it plays games well, and since one of my future upgrade will be a high-end 21"monitor, the 2d-quality will come in handy too.
however, i may be biased here, becuase "true Matrox enthusiast " fits my description perfectly. ;)
06-29-02, 10:12 AM
I know TdB. Quite frankly if I'd want a workstation card and would be set to shell out 400$ for one, I'd just add another 200$ to it and get a P10.
Higher programmability = longer lifespan = better investment.
But since you're set to get one, I think we wouldn't mind to hear some impressions after you've got it. Even if they're biased we won't mind :)
Screenshots with FAA would be considered a PLUS :D
I might come back here and post my impressions when i finally get it, I donīt expect to buy it, before late next month though, so it might be old news at that time.
since im using win98 i have decided to wait untill they get their win98 drivers out.
And I definately wonīt buy before it is available in danish online shops, Im not comfortable with buying very expensive hardware from foreign countries.
btw im not that interrested in 3d-cad either, but i tend to keep my highend stuff for a while, and i donīt know what i will be doing with my computer in the future, and who knows what my interests will be next year. :)
but with this card i will be prepared for almost anything.
who knows i might even like their new and improved dualhead, (my old g400max had POS quality on the second head, it was basically a cleverly hacked tv-out, AFAIK)
right now im most interested in gaming and watching dvd movies, and it seems to do both really well.
I just ordered my parhelia, and it should be here within the next few days, when I have tried it out and fiddle around with it, i will return with my impressions and thoughts.
stay tuned... :)
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