Pentium 4 Processing!

[Vermillion]

Anyone see the performance of the 1.7 GHz?? I heard the 1.3 Ghz AMD Athlon outperforms it by a mile. What do you think??

[rhink]

Outperforms a 1.33 athlon in what?

Go look at some benchies for yourself.... the Athlon 1.33 actually does quite well against it. It still wins most the stuff it won before, and the P4 still wins most the stuff it had an advantage in before. They're roughly equivalent in speed.

[Seldzar]

If you want a more indepth discussion about the in's and out's of the p4 etc check this thread http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/noncgi/Forum10/HTML/000027.html

You can learn a lot in those boards.

:)

[Particle]

I have a Pentium IV and I love the speed. Dont believe benchmarks.... cause the Athlon IS faster but only for a small margin...

Lets see: if one does one thing in 1:31 seconds and the other one does it in 1:29 is no big deal.

The only "mile" difference between them is the price.

If they were the same price I´d much rather have a Pentium IV because it is optimized for newer software. The software that has SSE2 compatibility does make the P4 outperform the Athlon by a LOT!

So if the prices are the same, the P4 is a smarter option.

However that´s the not case right now. AMD is a much better option.

Now, no one go putting words in my mouth. That was just my point of view, since I have a P4.
:cool:

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[AchtBit]

>>The software that has SSE2 compatibility does make the P4 outperform the Athlon by a LOT!<<

true, but only some few SSE2 algo's are optimzed ,yet

that isn't even much,is it?

(what shit wrote i first?? :confused: )

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[DABSON !~]

I would love the P IV
but it's a little pricy!~
:eek:

[DABSON !~]

I'm a Voodoo5 !!! I love that rting much better than stars....

MUCH BETTER SLACKER

[DABSON !~]

Originally posted by AchtBit:
>>The software that has SSE2 compatibility does make the P4 outperform the Athlon by a LOT!<<

true, but only some few SSE2 algo's are optimzed ,yet

that isn't even much,is it?

(what shit wrote i first?? :confused: )

[ 04-25-2001: Message edited by: AchtBit ]

Ya but wait till things do use it..
You'll see a huge difference in performance gain! But, for this year you won't till Xmass
So by then it's only worth to get AMD now and then sopend for a 2Gig System for Intel at Xmass time. GTS 3 Ultra.....MatroxG800 and ATI Radeon 2....
:p

[DUKE HARDKNOCK]

Gawd, I miss the days of the 386s and 486s. Things were so much simpler back then.

[DABSON !~]

Ya i use to love playing Doom frame by frame on the good old 386 LOL

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[Ailuros]

Actually Particle I'll have to disagree that if the P4 drops in price it'll be a better option. The p4 will be a better option when the Northwind revision will come out. Until then it'll hardly live up to it's expectations.

I know benchmarks are just that benchmarks, and especially the synthetic ones do not always apply to real-life performance. But until now no P4 managed to impress me in any benchmark or review I've read compared to P3's in the first place.

SiSoft Sandra 2001 Pro SE

CPU

933/P3 ALU 2534MIPS
--------FPU 1251MFLOPS

1200/P4 ALU 2300MIPS
--------FPU 1466MFLOPS/SSE2 625

1000/P3 ALU 2700MIPS
--------FPU 1340MFLOPS

*******************************
MULTIMEDIA

933/P3 Integer SSE 5072 it/s
-------Fl.PointSSE 5866 it/s

1200/P4 Integer SSE 4725 it/s
--------Fl.Point SSE2 5855 it/s

1000/P3 Integer SSE 5428 it/s
--------Fl.Point SSE 6640 it/s

The best choice from Intel IMO opinion as in price/performance is still a 1ghz P3. The analogy of performance vs. clockspeed between P3's and P4's in current applications is a joke at least.

Hell I don't know how accurate the benchmarks over at firingsquad where, but the 1,7ghz even overclocked to 1900mhz was a joke if you ask me.

[multigl]

sharkyextreme had the new 1.7 at over 2 GHz.

[Particle]

Originally posted by ailuros21:
Actually Particle I'll have to disagree that if the P4 drops in price it'll be a better option. The p4 will be a better option when the Northwind revision will come out. Until then it'll hardly live up to it's expectations.

I would have to agree with you Ailuros, Intel is in the right track but with their head up their ass. And with the P4 they just throwed something at us, If they could make it work better and fixed the price a little, then they could get back some of the market share they have lost to AMD.

The Northwind is not going to be compatible with previous P4, however its a new breed of speed and technology that should have AMD shaking in their place.

I love this competition between them, because we are the only one that benefit.

As you know, I have a P4, and I love it. I am not a "loyal" customer of any brand, however if for my next rig the Northwind has a good price I´ll get one, or if AMD does then I dont care, and I´ll buy one.

Whichever I like, I´ll buy. Im not loyal to computer chips, however to my friends I am. (just in case any of you were wondering :p)

Thanks for your input.

[Particle]

The Pentium 4´s performance in Corel Draw is quite nice.

[Ailuros]

from sharky:

Outperforms Athlon in 3D gaming scenarios

In Quake 3 arena definitely.
:rolleyes:

[Ailuros]

Particle,
I was not talking about brand loyalties or anything.

I was just pointing out that in the price/performance ratio, if you include a quite pricy mobo and RDRAM with a 1,2 or 1,3 P4, I don't see a reason why not get with half the money and more than comparable performance in current software a 1ghz P3.

It's irrelevant to your choice. It does not mean by far that you made a bad choice.

Think of it: if you had a 1ghz P3 before and went out and bought a 1,2 or 1,3ghz P4 (even now with the pricecuts) you would be pretty pissed if after paying a shitload of money you would hardly see a difference in performance. From that viewpoint Intel deserves all the criticism it can get.