V5 and P4 compatibility

[ATMArage]

I might be getting a new PC soon, and I was aiming towards a P4, but then I remembered that when they first came out there was a thing about how Voodoo 5's didn't work with the motherboards. I was just wondering if any of the boards work with them now, since I won't be taking out the V5 for another couple of months.

[<LostCause>]

You can't use a V5 AGP,since it won't work in the new AGP slots.You can use a V5 PCI just fine.The AGP slot was/is the only problem with Voodoo AGP cards(except V4) on a P4 mobo.

[ATMArage]

Poo, looks like I'm gonna have to find an alternative to the P4. Oh well, thanks for the info.

[Sharkfood]

There were two specific problems with the V5 and the P4.

One was the physical AGP slot. The newer design doesn't allow the card to physically "plug-in" as the extra piece of the edge connector on the V5 wont fit.

The other was the change in core voltage. The P4 works with a 1.5V AGP core voltage, versus the 1.65V+ of the P3.

All these concerns stemmed from the true-blue Intel based workstation P4 motherboards. It's anyone's guess if newer, 3rd party (asus, abit) P4 motherboards will/have any solutions to this issue. Early AGP Pro slots had similar physical fitment problems, but now they split them and put a little "slug" you stick in them to work with V5's.

I really couldn't tell ya' if the newer 3rd party mobo's still have this issue. Any desire to pick up a P4 rig is quickly countered with Athlon benchmarks and pricing. :)

Cheers,
-Shark

[opus512]

Wasen't the AGP basicly the same thing as Asus' AGP Pro spec? I remember reading about this crap when it all first came about, people crowing on the old 3dfx boards that the V5 sucked becasue it wouldn't fit in the P4 AGP slot, but it seems that there was a way around it, like just popping off the tab that covered part of the AGP slot on the MoBo, but I don't know for sure, and the voltage question is a whole 'nother thing.

[Quackass]

well the P4 is a POS, all your doing is paying more for less, if your an intell fan, wait untill the faster P3's come out or get a p3 1ghz EB

[Wedge]

pssst Quak, check the prices again, they aren't that much more ;)

[Plaster]

psst, wedge, you're still paying more for less. :p

[opus512]

Heheh, once the 1.4 GHz get's out in volume the price will drop on all the other models. And once the Athlon 4 (love the poke at Intel, heh) get's into desktops, which they will, then the Tbirds and Durons will go down even more. I think AMD has stated they are commiting to staying roughly 20% less then Intel clock for clock, or something like that.