[H]ardocp on 5950! (a good read imo)

[Blighter]

Check it out, it puts things pretty much the way they really are.

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTM3

However, if you'd like a review that favours nVidia, check Tom's gay ass weinands article on the same card.

[ItsNoot]

Nvidia has nerve charging what they are for this card.

[opus512]

I can't believe that nVidia used to rip on 3dfx over the size of the V5 :P

[ItsNoot]

Theres that too...

Seriously though. It's one thing to be the highest price card when you are the clear performance leader. But to do the same when falling so woefully behind the leader? WTF is that about?

[Sir_Gallahad]

Theres that too...

Seriously though. It's one thing to be the highest price card when you are the clear performance leader. But to do the same when falling so woefully behind the leader? WTF is that about?

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=14-102-317&DEPA=1

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=property&catalog=48&mfrcode=0&propertycodevalue=4632,%200,%203671,%200,%200,%200 ,%200,%200,%200,%200,%200&keywords=&minprice=&maxprice=&description=%20&Order=priceD

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=manufactory&catalog=48&manufactory=1402&description=&Order=priceD


Wtf are you smokin?

[nextbillgates]

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=14-102-317&DEPA=1

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=property&catalog=48&mfrcode=0&propertycodevalue=4632,%200,%203671,%200,%200,%200 ,%200,%200,%200,%200,%200&keywords=&minprice=&maxprice=&description=%20&Order=priceD

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=manufactory&catalog=48&manufactory=1402&description=&Order=priceD


Wtf are you smokin?
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?DEPA=1&submit=Go&description=N82E16814102319

[Sir_Gallahad]

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=property&DEPA=1

Not viewable dude...you got the link wrong

Edit: OK you fixed it...congratz. NOW: You do know what the difference between an OEM package and a RETAIL package is don't you? ;)

[nextbillgates]

Not viewable dude...you got the link wrong

Edit: OK you fixed it...congratz. NOW: You do know what the difference between an OEM package and a RETAIL package is don't you? ;)

A nice shiny box, and maybe a game or two.

[incandescent]

I got a retail 9800XT for 499.99.

[Thetargos]

Ouch! I wish I had that money to spend on a new video card.


Hell that is by far much more than what a gaming console costs!

[ItsNoot]

Point is: they are comparible in price, but not in performance. 5950 looks like a 350-400 card to me, not 500. Ati has gone from "bang for the buck leader" to "youd be an idiot to buy the other guy" IMO.

I'm speaking from this:
Comparing the GeForceFX5950 Ultra with the Radeon 9800XT is really a no-brainer. If you want the best IQ, such as AA and AF combined with DX9 performance, the ATI Radeon 9800XT is still HardOCP's card of choice. Both the Radeon 9800XT and the GeForceFX 5950 Ultra are priced at MSRP $499. When we sit here and look back at the performance and image quality obtained in this preview as well as special XT perks, like a full single and multiplayer version Half Life 2, we really can come to only one conclusion. The Radeon 9800XT is the better buy; you simply get more for your money compared to the GeForceFX 5950Ultra.

[dryass]

The 5950 is not the performance leader.. and they are charging more.. what the hell has been happening to nvidia? this entire FX series has been a total and complete flop - the new radeons are just killing anything nvidia puts out... they better get there act together, I already got my money on ATI for my next card, to replace this weary 4200.

[incandescent]

bingo. Look, I have no problem in spending 500 bucks on a Video Card if its actually a top of the line video card. You know what? To me, the 5950 simply isn't comparable performance/quality wise to the 9800XT; it isn't even, in my book, a top of the line card. The 9800XT is top of the line in every respect.

[Sir_Gallahad]

A nice shiny box, and maybe a game or two.

Yeah...that and $50. Subtract $50 form the retail 5950 and you get the OEM price....which is $50 less than the OEM price for the XT

[nextbillgates]

Yeah...that and $50. Subtract $50 form the retail 5950 and you get the OEM price....which is $50 less than the OEM price for the XT

/doesn't see an OEM version on newegg

:ggowned:

[Sir_Gallahad]

/doesn't see an OEM version on newegg

:ggowned:

Doesn't mean it doesn't exist elsewhere

[Thetargos]

But you were arguing about newegg!!! that was what you posted!



http://www.newegg.com/app/viewprodu...-102-317&DEPA=1

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...20&Order=priceD

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProdu...n=&Order=priceD


Wtf are you smokin?

_____
Do you even know what ecuanimity means?

[Sir_Gallahad]

If you cut through the fact that this guy likes NVIDIA, you get a pretty neutral review. He tells you the good and bad points of the cards and uses benchmarks that aren't the standard to avoid the driver cheating possibility. The way I see it, the 9800XT is at the top no doubt. Fine....performance wise, the numbers show that the 5950 competes well with the 9800pro....which is not too shabby. It's a brand new product.....the price will drop eventually.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/88/

Hopefully nvidia will bring something new to us soon in terms of architecture that brings the competition back to level.

PS- How does ATI go about packaging HL2 with the 9800XT if the game does not yet exist? :confused:

[FluxCapacitor]

If you cut through the fact that this guy likes NVIDIA, you get a pretty neutral review. He tells you the good and bad points of the cards and uses benchmarks that aren't the standard to avoid the driver cheating possibility. The way I see it, the 9800XT is at the top no doubt. Fine....performance wise, the numbers show that the 5950 competes well with the 9800pro....which is not too shabby. It's a brand new product.....the price will drop eventually.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/88/

Hopefully nvidia will bring something new to us soon in terms of architecture that brings the competition back to level.

PS- How does ATI go about packaging HL2 with the 9800XT if the game does not yet exist? :confused:
They got the source off BitTorrent and compiled it themselves. :D

[incandescent]

you get a voucher to get the game when it comes out

[Sir_Gallahad]

But you were arguing about newegg!!! that was what you posted!



_____
Do you even know what ecuanimity means?

No...I was arguing about the price of cards. newegg.com is where I do my business normally, so I used them.



And that word does not exist. Perhaps you meant equanimity which is basically being even tempered or calm.

[nextbillgates]

PS- How does ATI go about packaging HL2 with the 9800XT if the game does not yet exist? :confused:

They give you a coupon or something :P

[Slacker]

They give you a coupon or something :P
We did that at 3dfx with UT and the Voodoo5s. Man, what a mess that was - people ended up waiting for months for the stupid game.

And that word does not exist. Perhaps you meant equanimity which is basically being even tempered or calm.

OMG YOU WIN! His second language isn't quite as accurate as your first! :ggowned:

[incandescent]

I believe you get to download the game VIA steam if you choose with the voucher.

[opus512]

They got the source off BitTorrent and compiled it themselves. :D
:lol: :bigthumb:

[opus512]

We did that at 3dfx with UT and the Voodoo5s. Man, what a mess that was - people ended up waiting for months for the stupid game.



OMG YOU WIN! His second language isn't quite as accurate as your first! :ggowned:
Holy Crap I remember that :D

Wasn't there a packeging deal with the first Unreal, too?

Hell, I still got my misprinted Unreal CD around somewhere, with UT on it instead :P :D

[Apoch003]

I believe you get to download the game VIA steam if you choose with the voucher.
How does boiling water get me a game? What extra part do I need to collect the water vapour and reassemble it as HL2?

How much does it cost? :P

[Priceless_Dabson!~]

The 5950 is not the performance leader.. and they are charging more.. what the hell has been happening to nvidia? this entire FX series has been a total and complete flop - the new radeons are just killing anything nvidia puts out... they better get there act together, I already got my money on ATI for my next card, to replace this weary 4200. I wouldn't worry about Nvidia they have a great card --> 5900Ultra 256meg
It;s cheaper than the 9800 over here in CAN by far! actually $170 cheaper .....
Now I am using it I must say it's alot stronger with FSAA 4x and aniso 8x on the net in smooth gaming and speed compaired to the Radeon9700Pro.

It may not chow on paper as being faster but let me tell ya it's aniso is far better.... I love this new card
AND I recommend it.

[Sir_Gallahad]

OMG YOU WIN! His second language isn't quite as accurate as your first! :ggowned:

Ithankyou

[Blighter]

I wouldn't worry about Nvidia they have a great card --> 5900Ultra 256meg
It;s cheaper than the 9800 over here in CAN by far! actually $170 cheaper .....
Now I am using it I must say it's alot stronger with FSAA 4x and aniso 8x on the net in smooth gaming and speed compaired to the Radeon9700Pro.

It may not chow on paper as being faster but let me tell ya it's aniso is far better.... I love this new card
AND I recommend it.
Sigh.

[Plaster]

It may not chow on paper as being faster but let me tell ya it's aniso is far better.... I love this new card
AND I recommend it.

The Kiss of Death! :bigthumb:

[Blighter]

The Kiss of Death! :bigthumb:
rofl :D

[Jack_Tripper]

I believe you get to download the game VIA steam if you choose with the voucher.
Awww...couldn't they just kick me in the balls...might be easier...and not lead me to believe that I was going to get the game :D

Jack

[Thetargos]

And that word does not exist. Perhaps you meant equanimity which is basically being even tempered or calm.

Being the fact that I don't naturally speak English, because it is not my mother language... Well, you could call it a typo.

***Edit
Could you be less bitchy?

[Sir_Gallahad]

Being the fact that I don't naturally speak English, because it is not my mother language... Well, you could call it a typo.

***Edit
Could you be less bitchy?

Nah, I just thought I'd correct someone arrogant enough to insult the knowledge of my own language while spelling the word wrong ;)

No, but could be more bitchy if you like.

[Plaster]

Could you be less bitchy?

Hey now, that's not very nice. It's rather rude to ask someone to be something they aren't. Sir_G is a bitch. Either accept it or ignore it. :evil:

[Blighter]

Thetargos don't worry about it, everyone else here loves you :) :grouphug:

[Blighter]

Awww...couldn't they just kick me in the balls...might be easier...and not lead me to believe that I was going to get the game :D

Jack
Half-Life® 2
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[Ailuros]

Half-Life, Counter Strike, Team Fortress Classic, Deathmatch Classic, Half-Life: Opposing Force and Ricochet.

ROFL what a relief for those people that are anxiously awaiting to play HL2. I wonder why iD hasn't catered for a free download of Quake3Arena when Doom3 had another delay :evil:

[Jack_Tripper]

Now...I'd be impressed if what you downloaded was those games running the HL2 engine (added physics/lighting/etc)

:D

Jack

[Blighter]

ROFL what a relief for those people that are anxiously awaiting to play HL2. I wonder why iD hasn't catered for a free download of Quake3Arena when Doom3 had another delay :evil:
Because nVidia has made no such arrengament with id :lol:

[Thetargos]

Thetargos don't worry about it, everyone else here loves you :) :grouphug:
:) yeah, I know :O

[Ailuros]

Because nVidia has made no such arrengament with id :lol:

Gamers want either/or not some ancient games they most likely have already. I know what you mean, but no one really needs a 9800XT to play HL1 heh.

[Blighter]

Gamers want either/or not some ancient games they most likely have already. I know what you mean, but no one really needs a 9800XT to play HL1 heh.
Yeah well, you are right about that. Altho there are gamers who don't have those games and they pretty much rock even if they are old games. Anyhow, ATI and Valve are doing the best they can not to let the gamers down in light of the HL2 delays :(

[Simian]

I'm really hoping for a November/December release, I know it probably won't happen, but it is still a possibility :D :bigthumb:

[beefcake12]

I wouldn't worry about Nvidia they have a great card --> 5900Ultra 256meg
It;s cheaper than the 9800 over here in CAN by far! actually $170 cheaper .....
Now I am using it I must say it's alot stronger with FSAA 4x and aniso 8x on the net in smooth gaming and speed compaired to the Radeon9700Pro.

It may not chow on paper as being faster but let me tell ya it's aniso is far better.... I love this new card
AND I recommend it.
The former Nvidia basher... :naughty:

[Ailuros]

The former Nvidia basher... :naughty:

You should know better by now....

[Blighter]

You should know better by now....
:D

[Blighter]

They got the source off BitTorrent and compiled it themselves. :D
L O L :D :D :D

[Ailuros]

Blighter,

Stop reviving shtupid antiquities :D

[Blighter]

lol aww come on! don't spoil the fun :eat:

:D

i was reading the thread and thought that was funny as hell (again) what fluxy said and had to reply to it :D :D

obviously i forgot this was an old thread :D

[Rockbuff]

*hugs BFG 5900XT OC @ 475\760*

It was free!

After an upgrade from a ti4200, I've been pretty happy with this card. I hope it last me until Christmas. The only games that have "strained" it are Doom 3 and Far Cry. Not lighting fast fast framerates, but I can still use AA and AF. I use Quincux in Doom 3.

[Ailuros]

It was free!

Mind you I don't pay for my turds either :evil:
































ROFL ok j/k :bigthumb:

[Akira]

Know what? It hasn't aged a bit. :bigthumb:

[Blighter]

lol :lol: