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Old 10-20-03, 06:35 PM   #1
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Hey Thetargos!

howed that gome install go?
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Old 10-21-03, 01:56 AM   #2
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Not so good... My Red Hat machine did not like it much, to say the least! However when I finally got it working, I did not notice much of a difference between this and 2.2.2. Maybe because most of the features (more mature in 2.4) are already somewhat implemented in 2.2.2. However the most notorious thing is that it (at least in the desktop) really is faster than 2.2.2. Another notorious thing is that you can have a transparent gnome-terminal and now it would update the background as you move it around your desktop, unlike gnome-terminal in 2.0 & 2.2 GNOMEs. I'm still doing some practices with it

BTW I'm putting together a guide for writing CD's as non root user in a controlled home-desktop Linux enviroment, despite the fact that there are already some apps that will take the hassle off your hands (XCDRoast & K3b come to mind). However for some tasks I still find gtoaster much more functional than K3b (like making Audio CD's, or is it that it resembles way too much a Windows XP app?). In any case if you really would like (and that is for all that may see this post) this guide posted here, just let me know!
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Old 10-21-03, 02:07 AM   #3
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Not so good... My Red Hat machine did not like it much, to say the least!
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Old 10-21-03, 03:11 AM   #4
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Nah... it wouldn't be fun if I hadn't have to fight the beast for a few hours In the end I learned, and had fun (depending on what you may call fun )

BTW, about CD burning software and overall multimedia KDE apps... how can you KDE users stand that POS arts is? I find it to be QUITE messy! (trying to figure it out, though) I tried to make an Audio CD with K3b, selected a few tracks, etc. But then I wanted to preview the order of the songs... BAM! arts is not loaded. Ok, I go to a console, load the beast and re-try (with K3b still open) BAM! libartsgslplayobject.la error... WTF?!?! realized I have no such file... I mess around trying to find the package containing it (rpmfind is your friend, use it wisely). Found it, install, load the beast, re-start K3b BAM! no arts found!... I mean HOW can you live with that??? I know you KDE users get arts loaded as KDE loads, but have to disable it for quite a bit of programs raging from games for performance boosts to administrative programs, to audio mastering programs (arts have a BIG latency, according to the ReZound and Audacity guys)...

Sorry for this arts rant in this GNOME 2.4 thread . BTW G2.4 also comes with that POS esound is, fortunately it is NOT as vital to GNOME as arts is for KDE... Ok, programmers like to hassle users less by not including support for it, or by enabling a way to run the apps without it (even if it is running )...
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Old 10-21-03, 03:27 AM   #5
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BTW, about CD burning software and overall multimedia KDE apps... how can you KDE users stand that POS arts is? I find it to be QUITE messy! (trying to figure it out, though) I tried to make an Audio CD with K3b, selected a few tracks, etc. But then I wanted to preview the order of the songs... BAM! arts is not loaded. Ok, I go to a console, load the beast and re-try (with K3b still open) BAM! libartsgslplayobject.la error... WTF?!?! realized I have no such file... I mess around trying to find the package containing it (rpmfind is your friend, use it wisely). Found it, install, load the beast, re-start K3b BAM! no arts found!... I mean HOW can you live with that??? I know you KDE users get arts loaded as KDE loads, but have to disable it for quite a bit of programs raging from games for performance boosts to administrative programs, to audio mastering programs (arts have a BIG latency, according to the ReZound and Audacity guys)...
As a bit of irony, I found a page with a post in it suggesting disabling arts before doing any CD mastering with K3b, due to possible buffer underruns problems, even slowdowns while burning (mainly recommended for speeds above 16x)...
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Old 10-21-03, 05:07 PM   #6
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agreed arts is a pain. but of course most of the audio packages in linux are a pain as well. i have always had strange problems with audio on my system. i think its mostly due to my nforce audio though. sound will just stop working all of the sudden. open up sound control select a diffretn sound server and it works. strange stuff. anyways id really be interesting in the cd buring doc. thats the one thing i havent takled yet on my box. well not completly.
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Old 10-21-03, 06:46 PM   #7
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Just to open this position to others as well... To fit better the document, what have been your accomplishments when burning a CD, which program do you use, etc, etc.

As a quick excerpt of the document, let me tell you that I have discovered how to make regular users (regulated by group restrictions) have unlimited access to the CD burning hardware (not the Holy Grail in linux CD burning, but close). Also, I know there are some programs that allow you to do on the fly like XCDRoast, K3b and KONCD (when it doesn't fail at the chmod command). So basically what I've done is a little system hack on both, the cdrecord (and helper programs) and the device themselves!... But first I wanna know if this kind of information will be of any help to the (sparse) Linux Users here*...


*I've thought of the SCMB-LUG (Slacker Central Message Board Linux User Group)
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BTW Huber, what drivers for the nForce are you using (OSS or ALSA)?? using KDE, Black Box or GNOME (ok, I know you don't use GNOME much )
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Old 10-21-03, 08:38 PM   #9
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im using the nforce drivers, alsa didnt workout so well. so far so good with the nvidia drivers. also i primarily use KDE. i havent gotten sound to work in gnome 2.4 but i havent really tried yet.
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Old 10-22-03, 02:31 PM   #10
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Sound to work on GNOME?? If you mean sound for events, you need to start its deamon: esd (enlightenment sound deamon), as for the general sound of the system, it should work fine.
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