Found out how to force TemporalAA regardless of fps.

Apoch003 · 07-13-04, 07:52 AM

Currently, you have TempAA only when the fps is above 60.
I now know how to force it on all the time.
It's very nice!

If anyone cares, let me know. Otherwise, I'm going to bed.

Jack_Tripper · 07-13-04, 08:12 AM

Sure
Jack

Ogre · 07-13-04, 09:41 AM

Play in 640*480 with low detail so FPS never goes below 60 FPS?

dookiebot · 07-13-04, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ogre

Play in 640*480 with low detail so FPS never goes below 60 FPS?

Dont forget 256 colors.

Flywest · 07-13-04, 11:43 AM

Hmm is is the separate temporal AA applet ? I use that thing to enable temporal AA but honestly I can't tell if I'm running temporal or not

Apoch003 · 07-13-04, 12:02 PM

No... it's some registry editing.

Apoch003 · 07-13-04, 12:05 PM

http://www.driverheaven.net/showthre...threadid=50472

Pay no attention to his vsync comment. I don't believe it.

Flywest · 07-13-04, 12:18 PM

Yeah VSYNC needs to be enabled if you want TAA to work. Saw it on rage3d too.

Oh and if you can't find a program that will run lower than 60 FPS, try Farcry

Ogre · 07-13-04, 02:24 PM

Americas Army 2.1 will get you FPS nightmare as well..

Lollan · 07-13-04, 04:06 PM

SWG is capped at 30

Ailuros · 07-13-04, 04:59 PM

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I just tried it out. Everything still works... but I really cannot tell if temporal AA is different. My 9800xt is already fast enough to use it without problems.... and I'm having trouble finding a program that will run under 60fps.

I could make an extremely long list of occassions, with different settings were framerate drops way lower than that and you wouldn't even need recent games for that.

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And this is a little confusing, but I wonder how much of a difference in quality setting those to to "2" or "3" would make? And at what performance hit?

No significant performance hit at all between 2 and 3. Instead of merging sampling patterns twice in the temporal dimension (ie 2x sparse + 2x sparse = 4x sparse), they get merged three times (3* (2*x sparse)= 6x sparse). Before you start rejoicing about the "great" opportunity you just read about, the maximum the triangle setup allows is a 12*12 grid and never more. What's worse is that edge crawling turns -whenever the framerate drops below a certain threshold - from horrendous at "2" to abysmally bad at "3".

I know that it'll take months for some to get polygon edge crawling into their vocabulary, but if you want to call it a feature be my guest. Oh and low resolutions suck

Jack_Tripper · 07-13-04, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ailuros

I could make an extremely long list of occassions, with different settings were framerate drops way lower than that and you wouldn't even need recent games for that.

I'd be happy to do a follow up list that'll show even more situations with an X800XT

Jack

Apoch003 · 07-13-04, 08:24 PM

I didn't say there weren't any. I implied THAT I DON'T HAVE A GAME THAT DOES.

Oh, and honestly Ail, your twitterings and grandstanding get so tiresome sometimes. You could try being more helpful and less condescending in your posts.

I found a way to force it to work and I posted it. It's a true setting and screw you guys who don't think otherwise.

EG · 07-13-04, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Apoch003

I didn't say there weren't any. I implied THAT I DON'T HAVE A GAME THAT DOES.

Oh, and honestly Ail, your twitterings and grandstanding get so tiresome sometimes. You could try being more helpful and less condescending in your posts.

I found a way to force it to work and I posted it. It's a true setting and screw you guys who don't think otherwise.

Ail roolz........

u suck

Apoch003 · 07-13-04, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EGhadsGhost

Ail roolz........

u suck

No Ail roolz.......
YOU suck!

Ailuros · 07-14-04, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Apoch003

I didn't say there weren't any. I implied THAT I DON'T HAVE A GAME THAT DOES.

More like the majority of them all. I'm finishing up a review as we speak and it should be a pretty eye opener from the minimum framerates alone how easy it is even in quite older games to drop to the lower 20's or 30's at times and that irrelevant if it's a 2 or 3 year old game. What's crucial in this case is that you're way better off with much higher resolutions in older games and 2x or 4x MSAA, then chasing around for that magical threshold in order to get that joke of a feature to operate and yes it's as honest as it can get.

Seen it, tried it and it's entirely worthless IMHO.

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Oh, and honestly Ail, your twitterings and grandstanding get so tiresome sometimes. You could try being more helpful and less condescending in your posts.

There's more help in my former reply - if you actually read what I wrote - then you got in the entire thread at rage3D.

It's not my fault that I don't consider the so called "temporal AA" (which is actually a sample merge in the temporal dimension under weird conditionals and a literal abuse of what real temporal AA stands for) a feature if I ended up after hours of continious testing with horrendous edge crawling.

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I found a way to force it to work and I posted it. It's a true setting and screw you guys who don't think otherwise.

Right back at you. I'll always wish what's best for you

Apoch003 · 07-14-04, 04:23 AM

Too many big thumbs!!!

Jack_Tripper · 07-14-04, 07:22 AM

For what it's worth..

Thank you Apoch

and

Thank you Ail

Back to teh games now...PS...did anyone else see the PC gamer DoomIII review?

Jack

07-13-04, 07:52 AM	#1
Apoch003 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 26,697	Found out how to force TemporalAA regardless of fps. Currently, you have TempAA only when the fps is above 60. I now know how to force it on all the time. It's very nice! If anyone cares, let me know. Otherwise, I'm going to bed. __________________ It's only when you look at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day that you realise how often they burst into flames. -- Harry Hill

07-13-04, 08:12 AM	#2
Jack_Tripper Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ass'lanta Posts: 3,566	Sure Jack __________________ See, the fans, fanboys, and fanatics associated with PC games can often be the most rabid, disgruntled, ignorant, vocal, and downright crazy bunch of PC using lunatics in all of gaming. A stereotype? Not if it's 100% accurate and 100% capable of brutally murdering you in the office parking lot as you retreat home for the evening See Zarahana...See Zarahna Smash

07-13-04, 09:41 AM	#3
Ogre Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 793	Play in 640*480 with low detail so FPS never goes below 60 FPS? __________________ "Impact in 5,4,3,2,1. Thank you" - Alien: Ressurection I'm not gay. Butt I like purple

07-13-04, 12:02 PM	#6
Apoch003 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 26,697	No... it's some registry editing. __________________ It's only when you look at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day that you realise how often they burst into flames. -- Harry Hill

07-13-04, 12:05 PM	#7
Apoch003 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 26,697	http://www.driverheaven.net/showthre...threadid=50472 Pay no attention to his vsync comment. I don't believe it. __________________ It's only when you look at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day that you realise how often they burst into flames. -- Harry Hill

07-13-04, 11:43 AM	#5
Flywest Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 3,440	Hmm is is the separate temporal AA applet ? I use that thing to enable temporal AA but honestly I can't tell if I'm running temporal or not

07-13-04, 12:18 PM	#8
Flywest Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Québec, Canada Posts: 3,440	Yeah VSYNC needs to be enabled if you want TAA to work. Saw it on rage3d too. Oh and if you can't find a program that will run lower than 60 FPS, try Farcry

07-13-04, 02:24 PM	#9
Ogre Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 793	Americas Army 2.1 will get you FPS nightmare as well.. __________________ "Impact in 5,4,3,2,1. Thank you" - Alien: Ressurection I'm not gay. Butt I like purple

07-13-04, 04:06 PM	#10
Lollan Resistance is futile! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 43,703 Blog Entries: 1	SWG is capped at 30 __________________ struttin down da hood in my brand new flip-flops bustas won't know what hit 'em when da bomb drops coke in my pants and a fistful of rsi ain't no thang to lay 'em down when i stroll by homeys should invest in a linux-distro their windows be all fogged with nasty shit fo sho watch em scatter as i switch into freak mode cus they ain't got shit for anti-virus code got no time to talk gotta run from da cops slippin and fallin cus of my goddamn flip-flops my goddamn flip-flops uhuh uhuh

07-13-04, 08:24 PM	#13
Apoch003 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 26,697	I didn't say there weren't any. I implied THAT I DON'T HAVE A GAME THAT DOES. Oh, and honestly Ail, your twitterings and grandstanding get so tiresome sometimes. You could try being more helpful and less condescending in your posts. I found a way to force it to work and I posted it. It's a true setting and screw you guys who don't think otherwise. __________________ It's only when you look at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day that you realise how often they burst into flames. -- Harry Hill

07-14-04, 04:23 AM	#17
Apoch003 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 26,697	Too many big thumbs!!! __________________ It's only when you look at an ant through a magnifying glass on a sunny day that you realise how often they burst into flames. -- Harry Hill

07-14-04, 07:22 AM	#18
Jack_Tripper Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Ass'lanta Posts: 3,566	For what it's worth.. Thank you Apoch and Thank you Ail Back to teh games now...PS...did anyone else see the PC gamer DoomIII review? Jack __________________ See, the fans, fanboys, and fanatics associated with PC games can often be the most rabid, disgruntled, ignorant, vocal, and downright crazy bunch of PC using lunatics in all of gaming. A stereotype? Not if it's 100% accurate and 100% capable of brutally murdering you in the office parking lot as you retreat home for the evening See Zarahana...See Zarahna Smash