Fastest AGP card.... ?

Particle · 03-16-06, 08:06 PM

What's the fastest AGP card made from ATI ?

SirPauly · 03-16-06, 08:46 PM

That would be the X850XT PE. Core clocked at 540 and the memory at 590[1180]. Decent card but too damn expensive new for the performance and features offered right now when compared to PCI express cards.

opus512 · 03-16-06, 08:53 PM

Cheapest I could find at $299, but out of stock;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...MP=OTC-17exta6

The rest I found here $400-$500, which is really insane, because the card simply shouldn't be that expensive.

Mole · 03-16-06, 09:33 PM

I was thinking the 7800GS is the fastest AGP card...

Plaster · 03-16-06, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mole

I was thinking the 7800GS is the fastest AGP card...

Read Carefully.

TsR-RareAir23 · 03-16-06, 11:15 PM

You guys are all wrong. A friend of mine was able to find an AGP 8X slotted ATi Radeon X1600. It was a difficult search but he found it nonetheless. Can't give you the price or where to find it now but am about to conduct a search. What I can say about the card it isn't 1st party (read: ATi themselves DO NOT make this card. A 3rd party company does). Stay tuned to this thread for more info. Out!

SirPauly · 03-16-06, 11:27 PM

I don't think its faster than the X850XT PE though.

http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.proc....ATI+100437510

SirPauly · 03-16-06, 11:34 PM

A PCI express 1600 XT receives 27.7 frames and the X850XTPE receives 61.2 frames in the FarCry 1600 x 1200 with x4MS and x8AF -- Checked Beyond3d to be sure.

ArchAngelCD · 03-17-06, 12:25 AM

The X1600XT doesn't come in AGP, only the X1600 Pro that that's slower than a 9800 Pro. I just bought a NEW X850 Pro for $199 off of eBay. The X850XT is still way too expensive so I went with the Pro. GPU and memory is the same and so is the bandwidth of 34.6GB/s The only difference is the Pro has 12 active pipes where as the XT has 16. The AGP version of the X850 Pro can be unlocked so that's what I'm going to do... The guy had 6 but they are all gone but I see a lot still there for $219.

Ailuros · 03-17-06, 06:52 AM

Radeon X850 XT PE.

I don't know why some of you have the impression that the X1600PRO with almost one third of the multitexturing fillrate is any faster than the R480.

In terms of arithmetic throughput the R480 rates at ~104 GFLOPs/s, while the RV530 at 85 GFLOPs/s. The second has of course the advantage of SM3.0 compliance and dynamic branching/loops that come with it.

opus512 · 03-17-06, 08:55 AM

[edit]] Never mind, it's a PCI- E

SirPauly · 03-17-06, 10:23 AM

Dell seems to be selling an AGP X1600, too.

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...s=19&c=us&l=en

Mole · 03-17-06, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plaster

Read Carefully.

Yeah, I only read the title, didn't bother reading the post...

Ailuros · 03-17-06, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mole

Yeah, I only read the title, didn't bother reading the post...

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2686&p=1

*cough*

Particle · 03-18-06, 06:46 PM

Thanks all... do you know if the X850XT PE features GPU encoding for MPEG via ATI's AVIVO ?

Cause if it does not I wouldn't bother upgrading...

Ailuros · 03-18-06, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Particle

Thanks all... do you know if the X850XT PE features GPU encoding for MPEG via ATI's AVIVO ?

Cause if it does not I wouldn't bother upgrading...

AVIVO is present only on R5x0/RV5x0 class of GPUs. If you're planning to upgrade soon AGP isn't the best idea anymore, especially for the price those GPUs cost nowadays.

Mole · 03-19-06, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ailuros

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2686&p=1

*cough*

Ahh, well, I figured it would be... That's quite a surprise.

Blighter · 03-21-06, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Particle

Thanks all... do you know if the X850XT PE features GPU encoding for MPEG via ATI's AVIVO ?

Cause if it does not I wouldn't bother upgrading...

You mean the Windows Media Acceleration? Yes it does work on X800 series.

Ailuros · 03-21-06, 12:26 PM

He obviously means encoding hardware acceleration.

Blighter · 03-22-06, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ailuros

He obviously means encoding hardware acceleration.

Well what does the Windows Media Acceleration do

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TsR-RareAir23 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Goleta, CA, U.S.A. Posts: 2,356	You guys are all wrong. A friend of mine was able to find an AGP 8X slotted ATi Radeon X1600. It was a difficult search but he found it nonetheless. Can't give you the price or where to find it now but am about to conduct a search. What I can say about the card it isn't 1st party (read: ATi themselves DO NOT make this card. A 3rd party company does). Stay tuned to this thread for more info. Out! __________________ "If it moves, shoot it! If it doesn't move, shoot it till it does move. If it doesn't move after that then it's dead, a powerup or can't be killed (that last one means in no way that Fatal1ty and Thresh are indestructible in QIIIA)!" - The motto of the TsR clan Browncoats 4-Ever!

03-17-06, 12:25 AM	#9
ArchAngelCD Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: USA Posts: 1,501	The X1600XT doesn't come in AGP, only the X1600 Pro that that's slower than a 9800 Pro. I just bought a NEW X850 Pro for $199 off of eBay. The X850XT is still way too expensive so I went with the Pro. GPU and memory is the same and so is the bandwidth of 34.6GB/s The only difference is the Pro has 12 active pipes where as the XT has 16. The AGP version of the X850 Pro can be unlocked so that's what I'm going to do... The guy had 6 but they are all gone but I see a lot still there for $219. __________________ A bad day of fishing is still better than a good day at work!

03-16-06, 08:46 PM	#2
SirPauly Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: New England Posts: 5,473	That would be the X850XT PE. Core clocked at 540 and the memory at 590[1180]. Decent card but too damn expensive new for the performance and features offered right now when compared to PCI express cards.

03-16-06, 11:27 PM	#7
SirPauly Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: New England Posts: 5,473	I don't think its faster than the X850XT PE though. http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.proc....ATI+100437510

03-16-06, 11:34 PM	#8
SirPauly Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: New England Posts: 5,473	A PCI express 1600 XT receives 27.7 frames and the X850XTPE receives 61.2 frames in the FarCry 1600 x 1200 with x4MS and x8AF -- Checked Beyond3d to be sure.

03-17-06, 06:52 AM	#10
Ailuros epsilon+3 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 18,848	Radeon X850 XT PE. I don't know why some of you have the impression that the X1600PRO with almost one third of the multitexturing fillrate is any faster than the R480. In terms of arithmetic throughput the R480 rates at ~104 GFLOPs/s, while the RV530 at 85 GFLOPs/s. The second has of course the advantage of SM3.0 compliance and dynamic branching/loops that come with it. __________________ People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's easier to harass rich ladies than motorcycle gangs

03-17-06, 08:55 AM	#11
opus512 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Cherry Capitol of the World, Bitch! Posts: 71,504	[edit]] Never mind, it's a PCI- E __________________ We're all Nero, and we're all playing cheap plastic Chinese fiddles. When the Rebels become the Tyrants, Revolution takes on a New Meaning. The only truth that I fear is the dominance of opinion over thought, of partisan ideology over compromise, of emotional self righteous morality over intellectual reasoning. "We must always take heed that we buy no more from strangers than we sell them, for so should we impoverish ourselves and enrich them." --- Sir. Thomas Smith, England, 1549.

03-17-06, 10:23 AM	#12
SirPauly Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: New England Posts: 5,473	Dell seems to be selling an AGP X1600, too. http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...s=19&c=us&l=en

03-18-06, 06:46 PM	#15
Particle Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Panama Posts: 2,883	Thanks all... do you know if the X850XT PE features GPU encoding for MPEG via ATI's AVIVO ? Cause if it does not I wouldn't bother upgrading... __________________ - Particle.

03-21-06, 12:26 PM	#19
Ailuros epsilon+3 Join Date: Oct 2000 Posts: 18,848	He obviously means encoding hardware acceleration. __________________ People are more violently opposed to fur than leather, because it's easier to harass rich ladies than motorcycle gangs